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Are there really no simple social rules in the future that people do still follow?

Date: 2010-05-06 06:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] watchful-knight.livejournal.com
Parents have gotten that unimportant?

[What happened to the forth commandment ;;]

Date: 2010-05-06 06:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 2ndhandlion.livejournal.com
It's not that they're unimportant, but they aren't the one's getting married. Usually, he sign that dating has become serious, is when the prospective man is brought to meet the girl's parents.

Date: 2010-05-06 06:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] watchful-knight.livejournal.com
[Imagines dating to be "meet to wander over the field and have a nice conversation", btw. Kissing clearly isn't involved before one is engaged.]

And the other way round?

Date: 2010-05-06 07:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 2ndhandlion.livejournal.com
The boy's parents might become involved, but I guess people are just more protective of their daughters.

Date: 2010-05-06 07:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] watchful-knight.livejournal.com
They usually are the ones who give their child away, after all.

Date: 2010-05-06 07:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 2ndhandlion.livejournal.com
I think it's more tradition. Women can lead their own lives.

Date: 2010-05-06 07:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] watchful-knight.livejournal.com
...What do you mean by that?

Date: 2010-05-06 07:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 2ndhandlion.livejournal.com
women can't be given away, because there father's can't really won them, even if they think they do.

Date: 2010-05-06 07:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] watchful-knight.livejournal.com
They would still marry into the husband's family.

Date: 2010-05-06 07:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 2ndhandlion.livejournal.com
It's really just a name. Titles, as such, don't have meaning anymore in most of the world.

[Says the guy who married a princess... but he beat the crap out of her betrothed and they eloped so it's different...]

Date: 2010-05-06 08:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] watchful-knight.livejournal.com
Does family have any meaning there?

Date: 2010-05-06 03:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 2ndhandlion.livejournal.com
Yes. It's just not a power structure. It's who you care about and rely on, and who you have responsibilities for.

Date: 2010-05-06 06:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] watchful-knight.livejournal.com
But-

It's hard to grasp the concept of that, but it doesn't sound that bad.

Date: 2010-05-07 10:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] watchful-knight.livejournal.com
A lot of safety and security gets lost by that, though.

Date: 2010-05-08 03:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 2ndhandlion.livejournal.com
It depends. I always looked after my brother, because I'm older and I needed to be responsible for him.

But if my wife had obeyed her father, she would have been the 12th wife of a man she despised.

Date: 2010-05-08 11:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] watchful-knight.livejournal.com
Why would he have married her to him?

[Marriages are often due to politics or ensuring a girl's economic safety...]

Date: 2010-05-08 07:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 2ndhandlion.livejournal.com
Because he was wealthy and powerful, and her father feared him.

Date: 2010-05-08 07:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] watchful-knight.livejournal.com
And he wanted to marry her?

Date: 2010-05-08 07:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 2ndhandlion.livejournal.com
Because she was beautiful, and a princess.

Date: 2010-05-08 08:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] watchful-knight.livejournal.com
But her father can't have been a strong king.

Date: 2010-05-08 09:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 2ndhandlion.livejournal.com
No, he wasn't. he was wealthy, but he was loosing his power because he was weak.

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